Fit the dryer vent cover over the exterior opening of the venting hose pipe. The moisture just will not diffuse as fast and where you expect it to goi.... instead brew some tea on the stove, boil some chicken noodle soup... or simply allow more normal daily activities to add in moisture. Birds nests, kinked hoses, clogged hoses, hoses that were off the outside connector and dumping moisture into the stud cavity. In nearly all of the NE and midwest houses - there was a dehumidifier in the house - often within eight feet of the laundry machines. Obviously, this is a somewhat complex project which does require some amount of construction know-how. It's not even a gas dryer, it's electric. If we buy an electric dryer, does it still need to vent outside? The first observation was about 40% (give a take a few %) had vent lines with problems. In all cases, venting a clothes dryer indoors is a code violation. Pure heat pump cycle with out additional resistance heat - will still take a very long time (2-3 hours). That's a no-go for me. We consistently saw a 2 degree C, gain in room temps. Become a GBA Prime member and get full access to GBA articles, enyclopedia, videos, CAD library, and more. https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/how-to-vent-a-dryer My understanding is that the reason heat pump dryers were not introduced in the us sooner is that manufacturers decided Americans would not put up with 3 hour cycle times, and the models now available here are faster. For that you'd still want rigid pipe, sloped slightly down and out toward the outside wall - such that condensation will follow the pipe out. You can't get a six towel US bath towel load in one load. Presumably this is only even a thought with an electric dryer as a gas dryer needs to vent the combustion byproducts. For the rest of the year the heat is either off - or the best way to provide it is by an efficient and planned HVAC system. We then spent three hours in crawl space fixing the problem - coming out looking like the "lint monsters" from some Scify movie. They even sell boxes with screens for this purpose. It’s best to vent outside, Most old houses have a trap door in the front of the house, this was for coal delivery. © 2021 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. In which case I am thinking that venting to the space below the trap door, where there is outside ventilation, will be OK. I’d love advice on this. I live in an older duplex. How can I vent it outside to make it less of a fire hazard? But most interesting - when we asked about patterns of how the dryers were used, when they did laundry... the common answer was to put the laundry on one of those devices shown at the bottom of the story above.... the preferred method of drying was a clothes line. But for many of the sites we saw the length of that dryer vent pipe was eight to twelve feet in length - and it was hot. To get it there, use a smooth, rigid metal vent pipe. For the most part we didn't care about energy consumption. To vent your dryer properly, you truly do need to send the exhaust outside. Having seen lots of installations I am a real believe in using rigid vent pipe, with the seams taped using 3M aluminum tape.... and to manage the heat gain into the space (hot climates) wrap the exhaust pipe in insulation!!! FAQ: Why Do Some Builders Avoid Foam Insulation. Expect condensation and mold! From the outside, insert the pipe into the hole. The exhaust from a conventional clothes dryer is full of moisture and lint, and the best place to vent it is directly outside. Jason, I have an electric dryer in an interior utility room in my co-op. A hot dryer vent hose can dump a lot of heat into a space over an eight hour laundry day. This was self funded (and expensive). It is easier to clean, holds up well over the years... and lint fires should they ever happen are contained. … I’m guessing the air is way too wet to be properly dehumidified by the heat pump, and I’m asking for mold and general dampness problems.”. “I know going in that this is probably a terrible idea,” he continues, “but figured I’d ask just in case. But what about homes that lack space for a laundry room, or where a landlord or condo association forbids punching a hole in the wall for a dryer vent? Your dryer should now be properly vented to the outside. You can make a vent exit there. Replacing a vent cover is simple, thanks to … The corrugated plastic dryer vent hose commonly seen on dryer vents creates a fire hazard by trapping lint in their ridges. Secure the vent cover to the exterior wall with screws. Dryer vent condensation is actually a pretty common issue. A LOT!. A properly functioning outside dryer vent cover is very important for any home's operation. I am curious who if anyone commissioned this study, if you are allowed to say. Another reason for rigid pipe and insulating - we found one house where we went to check the air flow of the dryer - and nothing was coming out the duct vent. This was a relatives house - Amy and I convinced them it needed to be fixed. The outcome from what we could see on the room data loggers - is that the laundry process adds humidity to the room... and it wasn't all coming from the dryer. That would take your valuable time and patience. A typical laundry day could result in a homeowner misting four or five gallons of water over a short period of time into the space near the laundry washer/dryer. Thus the gains during the winter time are probably offset by the summer time cost of cooling to make up for the waste heat entering the home. These appliances must be vented to the outside … construction details. Where as we end up putting our cotton towels in the dryer (vented to the outside) sometimes, my work clothes that are largely synthetic come out of a high speed spin so dry I could almost put them in the closet (I actually have at times). The w/d had been moved from the basement (and all connections and vent sealed off) to the middle of the house. Second issue with dumping dryer byproducts into the living space.... you will see an increase in some rather unhealthy byproducts. I put borescope into the pipe - when back about 15 feet and suddenly the picture disappeared into a gray fog... not really water fog... just gray. Obviously the further from the dryer - the less heat gain... but within six to eight feet... there was a definite gain. When the dryer is located in an indoor location adjacent to an exterior wall, which is often the case, this usually involves making an opening in the exterior wall at least 12 inches (30.48 cm) above the ground, and 12 inches (30.48 cm) from external obstructions like decks or air conditioners. You want to have your vent set up as close as you can to the outside exit. I went with owner to hardware store and picked up semi rigid vent pipe, lots of pipe strapping, nails, and 3M aluminum duct tape. I bought an existing home without an outside dryer vent. We’ve covered this a couple of times. In all testing we weigh the dry, wet and post dried weights! Peter Yost indoor clothes drying If you're using metal vent pipe and it's a straight run, the dryer can be up to 64 feet from the end of exhaust vent. Use as little flexible hose as necessary and stay with the rigid pipe. When your dryer dries clothes, it expels moist air and lint through the vent hole of the dryer. These have never seen the dryer, I haven't weighed them but I doubt there's a pound of water there. Response to Jason D Having your dryer properly vented is crucial in keeping the appliance operating effectively and avoiding the risk of fire or water damage to your home. In the UK we had a chance to test a vented dryer -- that the owner had purposely moved to a small tool shed. The dryers we tested were 4cuft in size... about half the typical US dryer. To use foil tape, simply wrap the tape around the connecting seams. There are at least two reasons not to try this, says GBA senior editor Martin Holladay. If you are in a humid climate and run dehumidifiers - expect that you've got an increased latent heat load to deal with while the laundry is ongoing. Not only will you recover all the heat normally pumped outside but you'll be adding humidity to the air. Set the vent a minimum of 12 inches above the outside ground. Our dryer is in the garage. Look at the back of your house too, often there was a small window. During the summer months the waste heat from my dryer vent runs up a wall - under the master bedroom and out the side of the house. But that is probably only a problem if the vent runs through a n unconditioned space in a cold climate. Look at the back of your house too, often there was a small window. Behind our garage a room was added on connecting to our house, so we don't have an outside vent for our dryer. About thirty different locations... nearly 150 test runs thus far. That leads to the next conclusion - don't place your laundry washer/dryers in the master bedroom suite, upstairs or near the bedrooms if you are in a hot humid climate... you'd just need to use more air conditioning to offset the gains! a plumber should be able to run vent duct to one of your exterior walls. This solution may not be for everyone, if your looking for an easier way to vent your dryer out a window, there is a simple and easy solution. Where space is limited, an adjustable offset dryer vent is used. if it’s done right, the ducting can be relatively unobtrusive. Insert the other end of the pipe into a dryer vent elbow and seal it with duct tape. It results in a noticeable gain of heat at a time you'd want to be using air conditioning. Your dryer only has the power to push that heavy, wet lint so far, so it’s inevitable that some of it is going remain behind in the vent pipe. Cindy asks, "My dryer vents into my attic. Think about it. Nearly all of that wax is released during one dryer cycle. Push the dryer … It takes longer to dry your clothes and you have to pull them out soon after they’re done or they get kinda wrinkly, but otherwise works great. I’ve heard there are contraptions that you can connect to a dryer which take out the moisture. Then, slip the other end over the vent hood’s cap extension and secure it with a tube clamp or foil tape. At the bottom of the filters there was a catch tray that caught all the excess moisture,which you were required to empty out periodically. While emptying the dryer lint screen after every load is essential to preventing fires, a properly installed and maintained dryer vent system is also key. All the lint and stuff just comes out of the duct (looks like a slinky) and just blows on the ground and the walls. Response to Paul W We are in the Seattle area. We did not test any in the US. They also sag, further restricting airflow and trapping more and more lint over time. Insert the duct pipe on the vent hood through the hole. (Obviously, I would need to address the lint issue, but stay with me…) My thought is that this would provide ‘better’ air for the heat pump, and the heat pump would cool and dehumidify the basement. Additionally, a dryer can dry your clothes without the need for a very top-notch weather condition. We are also in the process of adding a dryer to our basement. To the extent that Peter Yost's comments imply that a homeowner might, under some circumstances, consider venting a clothes dryer indoors, you warning is important. If you don't insulate, perhaps in hopes of using the heat in a cold climate, planning to allow condensation to drain out is wise. I won't want that fine lint in my controlled environment - especially since the final rinse almost always leaves some level of detergent in the clothes. While we've taken data on the heat gain in the whole area - and lots of thermal pictures of the environment - the only house that I studied the heat gain from the pipe alone - is in my house. They are left to leak air from what ever room they are in to the outside environment - no insulation. Just wanted to add that fabric matters. Sign up for a free trial and get instant access to this article as well as GBA’s complete library of premium articles and You can add an additional critter cover over the dryer vent cover to prevent pests from coming in. The tests were in-situ... at homes where we would add data loggers to the room to measure moisture and the heat radiation. Copyright 2016 - BlankSlate Factory, Inc. © Copyright 2021. None of the comments posted in the original Q&A thread recommended that a conventional clothes dryer should be vented indoors. The shorter the distance and fewer the … Typically eight to ten hours sitting and waiting for a dryer. I crack a window to let the area be vented and it is fine. Clothes dryers shall be exhausted in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions. Without a dryer it would take a whole day to dry off all the clothes of the house. We had this same issue — noplace to vent and we were too lazy to install a vent — so we got the LG all-in-one washer-dryer with a condensation dryer — it condenses the steam and sends it down the drainpipe as water rather than vapor. "Improperly vented dryers and lint buildup cause over 15,000 fires a year. Travel, hotels, towels, labor was paid by us. It’s just hot air right? However we did just finish testing some dryers in Europe. Get building science and energy efficiency advice, plus special offers, in your inbox. I vent it into the lint boxes (filled with about an inch of water), open the door to the utility room when the dryer is running and it works fine. We'd log RH and temp while drying medium heat... record the time, use pin tester to confirm towels were dry... then analyze the data in the drum. “And damp lint sticks to everything (with the potential of gumming up the heat pump water heater compressor).”. Slip one end of your hose over the dryer’s exhaust port. I just recently attempted to clean out the dryer vent/duct for the downstairs unit and failed because I could not find where my dryer vent is outside. Position the assembly so that the opening faces toward the ground. why not just spring for a real vent? Culik will soon be moving into a new house, and the intended laundry room does not have a vent connection for a clothes dryer. You can’t do this with a gas dryer, only electric. That's the maximum recommended length of a dryer vent with no bends. The homeowners had noticed that on laundry days - especially in the summer - it seemed that the heat pump could never keep up with the heat.... That goes back to the question in the story about venting in basement... effectively that's what was happening in this particular house. I am working on a house but it has no hook-up for a dryer. Another observation is that when dryers are moved... the old dryer vents are often not carefully decommissioned! The house is well insulated on the upper floors and air tight.... so a little added heat goes a long way.... in winter and during the hot summer. It's also called a periscope dryer vent.Offset vents allow the dryer to be installed closer to the wall than a typical basement installation, using a 90 degree 4-inch duct elbow on dryer's discharge vent. The maximum distance of the exhaust piping depends on the number of turns to ensure the dryer's blower motor is strong enough to push the exhaust all the way to the end of the venting. Exception: This section shall not apply to listed and labeled condensing (ductless) clothes dryers. That plastic dryer vent should have been about 12 feet long... Years ago had water accumulate in it...tear in two and was dumping all the lint and moisture into the crawl space. This material will quickly create moisture and dust problems for your laundry room, and even potential health problems, if it isn't vented outside. We took showers there, changed clothes - continued tests. I've had my dryer venting into my home for about 8 years. You can deploy any of these methods to vent your portable air conditioner and cool your room without putting anyone’s life in danger. A dryer is an essential part of the house. As the gas leaves the exhausts of the dryer, it becomes concentrated indoors and can potentially poison the inhabitants of your home. It is a bad idea - even if you can capture 90% of the lint. You can make a vent exit there. Not all of the wax sticks to the clothing, a significant portion is vented out the duct - or - it condenses on the side of the duct with the lint. The towel cycles took approximately THREE hours to run to completion - using the manufactures recommended setting (IKEA towels). We used the IKEA towels for testing in Europe and have sets in the US that we can compare against in some select dryers. 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